Provide a genuine perpetual version of MM & ensure that users always have access to validation

Alex G. shared this idea 49 days ago
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Recent discussions on the forum have covered some of the issues regarding MindManager licence validation requirements (see https://community.mindmanager.com/topic/1428-is-winelse-mm2021-and-beyond-need-internet-connection-once-per-month-how-can-air-gapped-pc-use)

In summary, currently both perpetual and subscriber versions of MM require online validation every 30 days. This has obvious implications for people in remote areas with limited or no internet access, or who work for organisations which restrict internet access for security reasons. There are also issues for people who travel who usually have internet access but might be in locations without it when the 30-day log-in falls due.

I propose that Alludo/MindManager do the following::

  1. Follow Microsoft's example and sell a genuine perpetual version of the program which is a one-off purchase with a limited feature seat and no upgrade path but which only requires validation of the licence at the time of purchase;
  2. Provide an assurance that licence validation won't be turned off in future for what will then be older versions of the program as a way to force people to upgrade;
  3. Provide a way to ascertain the number of days left before the next validation is required; and
  4. Allow users to pre-emptively bring forward the validation date to avoid this occurring at an inconvenient time, for example while travelling in locations without internet access or on the day of a presentation.

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Correction: point 1 should read "... with a limited feature set..."

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Also, I've realised that my second point does not apply to subscription versions; as I understand it, the program ceases to work when the subscription lapses. The whole rationale of subscription is that you must keep subscribing not only to receive updates, but also for the program to continue working at all.

However, my proposal at point 2 is still valid for owners of the perpetual version.

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Hi Alex,

Just a clarification that whenever you are online the license is checked daily so the 30 day window for normal users usually has 30 days remaining until the next require check. It's very unlikely that users who are traveling and usually connected to the internet would be blocked by this. If you want to be sure you won't be blocked, just sign in with an internet connection the day before or day of your travel. We did extensive research on how major software companies around the globe are operating their desktop software license and validation and we are in line with the common patterns found in the industry.

Hope that helps!

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Hi Sia,

Thanks for clarifying this. Some of the wording even in responses from MindManager on this forum have given the impression that the licence is checked every 30 days, not that you have 30 days from when you last used the program while the computer was connected to the internet.

However, that still does not preclude the problems of people who were the basis of my central concern, ie, those who live in remote areas with limited or no internet access, or who work for organisations which restrict internet access for security reasons. Most of these people simply cannot access the internet every 30 days.

You state that based on your research you are "in line with the common patterns found in the industry" in following this practice. This may apply to the subscription model that MindManager has adopted, but there are several examples of companies that provide both subscription versions and a genuine perpetual licence option which only has to be validated only when the product is installed. The most notable of these is Microsoft, whose Home and Student package requires only a one-time validation.

As well as providing a similar product, MindManager could give consideration to adopting Microsoft's approach for larger organisations with employees in exactly the sort of situation I described. Microsoft allow up to 180 days between licence validations for these situations, as described at https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/microsoft-365-blog/enabling-productivity-for-everyone-with-microsoft-365-apps-for/ba-p/2111517

To quote:

To ensure Microsoft 365 Apps stays up to date, devices must connect to the internet at least once every 30 days. However, we’re aware that in industries, including government, oil and gas, manufacturing, agriculture, and scientific research, some people work in secure or remote environments where they have limited or no internet connectivity for longer periods of time.

To address this, we’re now providing extended offline access* to enable devices to stay activated without connecting to the internet for up to 180 days. Workers in secure or remote environments who are offline for long periods of time can continue using Microsoft 365 Apps to stay productive on-the-job without worrying about being cut off from the tools they need most after 30 days.

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Hi Alex,

I think you don't need to ask.

When I knew the answer, I myself already give up on mm21 and beyond, staying on mm20.


From my point of view, a citizen in the new evil axis (Russia, China, Iran, North Korea, Cuba etc). Their forcing of checking license online per 30days is simply an act to force to break the air gap security of those states, for political reasons.


Corel, which as far as i know, is based on Canada, one of Five EYE.

Their act speaks for themselves already.


Btw, microsoft DO have transparency center to let customers "read/analyze" part of code but not to copy out. I doubt if corel/mm have that resources.



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